> OSG20000 said on
11-25-2009 at
23:47:
towel heads muslims are Gay
> 2besavedcom said on
11-18-2009 at
12:59:
Over many years we have all been lied to by our Governments... But not just our Governments but many Religous Leaders. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false prophets. If you are a truth seeker please visit the web site which is displayed in our user name and take the time to read some of the articles... You will be shocked. Blessings as you seek truthBen
> MrSecondshift said on
11-12-2009 at
17:46:
if you do not question authority you mightt as well be cattle
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
18:44:
Ya know, I avoid using the term and prefer Skeptic myself."OH SHIT I ARE RIGHT HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!"Is what you are no doubt thinking. But you will excuse me if I actually exercise critical thinking. Unlike you, I do not just mindlessly take in everything Alex Jones says, as he says "Do research for your self"And guess what, that's what I am doing.So stop ostracizing people for being critical of BOTH points of views for the sake of FAIRNESS.You, being against bias, created it ITT
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
18:42:
Now you are just being obtuse.And as such, I feel you are being too close minded to consider that maybe just maybe this isn't a mass media thing but a simple question AGAIN"Why did the tower fall at a 45 degree angle"GETON TOPIC.But wait, you cannot can you? You simply attack anyone who dismisses you as being irrelevent to the conversation at hand. Clearly someone DID care as there was a healthy and polite debate about the fall.
> ytuber28341 said on
11-07-2009 at
18:36:
If you are correct on this, then also it is in err to believe the mass media, the judges, & the propaganda pumped to the masses as well.Suppose you are right? Congratulations! There will be no-one who can decide the case since of course, all who are involved in it are also human as well?What are you suggesting? Not researching anything since everyone is human? Haha!
> ytuber28341 said on
11-07-2009 at
18:34:
You are not really a truther are you?Of course you aren't!Why bring up topics that have no debatable truth? Perhaps because you don't love the truth?It is ok. Others will find out as well. No problem! You can try to hide the truth, but it always comes out in the end like a fire shining through the darkness.You can fool men & women for a time, but not forever! I do understand why you stick to such simple topics now.Thanks for your time, my friend!
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
18:07:
Of course I avoid it! The point was NEVER about molten steel. What part of this did you not get the first 45 times? If you cannot contribute to the original point, your opinion would best be saved for someone who questions the molten steel. Which is NOT me.
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
18:06:
*sigh* Yes, my reasoning is that you are bringing up a subject not in contention.Again, we were not discussing molten steel. As I have said many times, I am not arguing this point. You are the one who keeps bringing it up even though it has no bearing in fall angles. Which IS the original point. Are you able to get that through your skull or should I do up a video which shows the entire conversation up until the point you dropped your comment and insulted me for asking about a fall angle?
> ytuber28341 said on
11-07-2009 at
17:57:
This is your excuse for not answering?What a cop out!Everyone can clearly see you are a shill. Anyone who wasn't afraid of the truth would never be bothered by the molten steel topic.Clearly, this is a topic that enrages you as you have to response to it.
> ytuber28341 said on
11-07-2009 at
17:55:
Why are you so afraid of the truth?You always avoid the molten steel topic. Is it that painful for you to admit the fabrication of media stories & the government fake "reports"?If you are going to simply avoid the truth at all costs, what is the point of even discussing anything at all with you?
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
17:52:
Because we were not discussing that in the first place. YOU brought that in and demanded an answer from me. YOU are suggesting I am avoiding a question but I have mentioned several times I have never held a contending view. YOU are acting like a paranoid little git. If you cannot understand that we were never discussing molten pools in the first place, then you REALLY have no further need to keep this up.For the last time: Main point= Falling of tower and angle! Not molten Pools!
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
17:49:
And point of contention:It IS hypocritical to insert un debated and irrelevant facts in an attempt to degrade those of us who are talking about a completely different subject (Again the point of conversation was not molten pools, as this had been a given for some time, but the declination angle of the towers and NISTS report. )Consider THAT before calling people uninformed. Because, again, the main question has been "Wonder what caused the first tower to fall at a 45 degree angle" nothing else
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
17:46:
But it was never about that in the first place. The original point was consideration of the declination angle of the first tower as it entered progressive collapse. Until you came along and ruined the speculation by brashly insulting, we were tossing around ideas about the how and why. You REALLY need to lurk a bit before shoving opinions. Because I have not been spouting lies. Unless if you consider NISTS report that the towers should have taken 45 seconds to fall a lie. Then I would laugh.
> ytuber28341 said on
11-07-2009 at
17:45:
What I have to say to you, is all the disinformation in the world will never conceal the truth.If the carbon steel supports had been butter, they would have melted like, duh, butter!But they were carbon steel. Jet fuel cannot melt it. It takes 1,000 or more degrees higher than jet fuel can burn in order to melt carbon steel.Do you have an explanation for 1,800 degree jet fuel melting 2,750 degree steel?Why do you avoid the question? Are you scared the truth will get out? I am fearless!
> ytuber28341 said on
11-07-2009 at
17:28:
I am reading them.It is not hypocritical. Steel never burns hotter than the fire burning it. That is a fact. What are you going to tell me next? Molten metal was found because of jet fuel?Hah! Jet fuel never burns hotter than 1,800 degrees. It takes 2,750 to cause molten rivulets like the found at ground zero. Actually more, because that is just the beginning of the melting point!Are you going to tell 1 more lie, or not? I know what is & isn't possible! Jet fuel doesn't melt steel!
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
13:21:
Then I will simply say this:"Yes I agree with you on all points""Yes the steel could not possibly have been melted by jet fuel""The fact that the tower fell in 10 seconds is inconsistent with NIST findings that the towers should have taken 45 seconds to collapse"And finally:"This is not a right or wrong. This is 2 people having a conversation you seem to forget this every time you open your mouth and talk"There, I have said all I want to you. If you cannot contribute then GTFO
> danschaoticmind said on
11-07-2009 at
13:15:
Ytuber: Are you even reading my comments? How I am pointing out the notion of considering all points of view? Your treatment of people who do things in a fair and reasonable manner only serves to alienate people. Especially those who went ahead and said "Ya know what, official story is crap I'll be more inclined to believe the truthers"Yet you go off and degrade those of us who only try to find the truth in its most pure form.How hypocritical is this?
> ytuber28341 said on
11-07-2009 at
10:58:
I don't think the planes doing damage is the issue here.The issue is:Planes hitting a tower have never been able to bring a tower all the way to the ground before.Not only is that impossible, it is also stupid.Guess next, your going to explain how the moon really IS made of green swiss cheese?How do you convince yourself? Do you still believe in Santa Claus?Are you going to say that because I cannot disprove Santa, he must exist?
> ytuber28341 said on
11-07-2009 at
10:56:
May I also bring out the plausibility of the sun coming out & heating up the steel to 104, or horrors, 120 degrees?The carbon steel supports don't even melt till around 2,750 degrees. You make it sound like they were made of something like butter.Ahem, yes!May I also present, that if the sun came out, it might weaken it to the point of failure? How stupid is it to say that 1,800 degree flames weaken 2,750 degree steel to the point of failure?Yes! If it was butter! But it isn't!