> cybeavertoo said on
05-30-2008 at
23:58:
if vaccines were a tremendous benefit to mankind has to b seen. Yes in regard to people not getting sick or dying from certain diseases (especially the childhood ones) No as to knowledge and understanding of the human body, the way it interacts with its surrounding world (including diseases) and the negative impact to individual health as seems plausible in the case of autistic tendencies. But also much is said to later in life vulnarability to diseases because of a not well-trained immunesystem
> amiriliano said on
04-01-2008 at
13:29:
Please view my new movie "Vaccine Myths Episode 2 - The Great Graph Illusion"Thanks
> amiriliano said on
03-21-2008 at
21:29:
No prob...it's a common question. Docs are still out there helping. Complensation for most MD's is way lower than it used to be so the days of the Mercedes Benz/Golf course are over, though many folks still think that's the way it is. We do our best...most MD's today do it for love of the field, not so much for $. Nice talking to you. Check out my movies if you get a chance.-A
> Gilgamesh2707 said on
03-21-2008 at
21:11:
I didn't know the insurance coverage was so inflexible. well, you changed my mind about who is most respnsible for this current unsatisfactory situation. I shouldn't have been so quick to blame doctors, I guess they're just the ones I most associate with healthcare.It seems to me that spiraling heathcare costs wouldn't be as bad if mal. ins. wasn't so expensive, and it wouldn't be so expensive if our culture wasn't so litigious.But how the hell do we fix it?rehtorical,btw nemesis is me, also.
> amiriliano said on
03-21-2008 at
18:59:
But, doctors do work for the poor for very little pay in their residencies. MD's must do a 3-7 year residency in a hospital to become qualified. When they do this, they make very low pay and work approx 80hrs/week for all those years (crazy, huh?). The folks they serve are for the most part underserved populations. When I was a resident we went out to a local high school and did free exams. So...essentially all MD's do some pro bono work at some point.
> amiriliano said on
03-21-2008 at
18:57:
First, there are many physicians that do volunteer work, usually in shelters or poor communities (did hat myslef for a while). In the US, the system is designed so that you can't practice medicine without malpractice insurance. In order to be insured, the ins co has to verify you work in an organized institution and covers you only for the work you do there. If you work elsewhere, not only does it not cover you for the work there, but your coverage at the instit. is null and void.
> amiriliano said on
03-21-2008 at
17:35:
They are just rational people. They realize that it's not so simple as to hysterically respond to correlations without causation. Vaccines are a trmendous benefit to mankind. See the WHOLE picture.
> maleysnemesis said on
03-21-2008 at
17:17:
Apology accepted, I was a bit smarmy.Your post about insurance is exactly what i'm talking about. I'm sorry if I unfairly singled out the doctors (insurance companies are much worst), but if lawyers do cases pro bono, why not doctors?
> amiriliano said on
03-21-2008 at
12:35:
Well, I am sorry then, the way your posts are worded are a bit confusing. Thanks for the support. Physicians no longer do house calls (although there is a trend to go back to that) because in the US the reimbursment for docs is insurance based. Companies do not pay them to go and do such visits. However, there are school vaccination and health screening programs in some inner-city districts.
> Gilgamesh2707 said on
03-21-2008 at
06:04:
What are you talking about? I never said doctors make money from vaccines!!!!!!!!!!!!!I was trying to agree with your comment about climbing autism rates after th. was removed. I was simply trying to find an explainationfor the lack of "schoolcalls" (variation of housecalls). If multiple vaccines are being given only for the convience (sp) of the doctors, then what other logical conclusion can be drawn about their motivation?I don't talk to people who are currently on crack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> amiriliano said on
03-19-2008 at
15:21:
Whoever told you doctors make money from vaccines is on crack. This year we figured in my practice that the flu vaccine actually is a money-loser because we have less sick visits. You should check your facts abotu who's making money off this.
> pakieire said on
03-19-2008 at
05:27:
If they support the thing that caused their daughter's autism they are very misguided.
> pakieire said on
03-19-2008 at
05:26:
There are several studies that prove that vaccs cause autism but they are hid from the public. The medical community only publicizes the studies that have been rigged to show there is no connection. More than one researcher has shown a connection but the med. journals won't publish the studies.
> Gilgamesh2707 said on
03-14-2008 at
17:26:
cheers, I agree with you, amirilano, for more information see science-community dot sciam dot com slash blog-entry slash Sciam-Observations slash Nevermind-Scientific-Consensus-Vaccines slash 300004468however, I don't see anything wrong with spacing out the vaccines. Convienience of the doctors and parents doesn't outweigh safety concerns. What about getting doctors to come to schools to vaccinate kids, so parents don't have to take time off work? Oh, nevermind, doctors love to get PAID. :(
> XSC3 said on
03-13-2008 at
12:38:
skepdic(.)com(/)antivaccination(.)html
> amiriliano said on
03-10-2008 at
14:22:
Furthermore, if the answer is so simple, explain this: thimerosal has been removed from vaccine in California for 10 years...rates of autism climbing still. Seems your explanation holds no water. But if you want to take your medical advice from Deirdre Imus...go right ahead.
> amiriliano said on
03-10-2008 at
14:20:
Since many studies have been conducted to show that children who had received thimerosal have the same rate of autism as those who had not, it quite obviously is nowhere near as simple as that. Autism research is very robust these days and new date has come out even last week on genetics. Perhaps the foolish thing is to think that if 1000's of experts around the world are struggling to find explanations, then the answer is not as simple.
> Scatmany said on
03-10-2008 at
11:07:
amiriliano et al: I support what you say, I am not a fool. But you are a fool if you don't feel the immoral and inhumane conclusion that is derived from this statement: that autistic children are just collatoral damage. Is this acceptable? You are also a fool if you do not realise that the poison that is causing the autism is actually just a preservative (thimerosal) which is used to make the vaccines more economical. It is as simple as that!!!
> drmdk said on
03-10-2008 at
03:16:
Great comment
> amiriliano said on
03-10-2008 at
03:02:
"Sometimes people are injured by a vaccine, but they are safe for the majority of people. I could say that with a clean conscience."- Jon Poling, MD, PhD, the father in this case, commenting last week. Both he and his wife support vaccination.