I think all the trade unions did though was encourage the government to close them down quicker, making a lot of people jobless.

Yeah true. I don't think they robbed anyone of electricity anyway becuase they started using other ways to get electricity and started closing most of the mines down.

It was their electricity they were getting it out of the ground. So they can't rob what's their's

Stupid trade unions!!! Forced everyone to strike. Destroyed British industry. Tried to rob people of electricity and heating.

if you mean violent attacks as people getting beaten up, then perhaps you're right (i don't know the stats), but as for mass killings, surprisngly we don't get those (maybe a couple in ireland or some makeshift guns, but nothing on the US scale)and its agood thing that people with hunting rifles are monitored. period.

i never said it wasnt easier to kill with a gun. my argument was that a person will kill another person regardless of how easy it is to do so.assault rifles? no need, agreed, but hunting rifles? the cost is immense, the paperwork more so, and the constant checks terrible, as well as the fact that anyone committing a murder by gun in the surrounding hundred miles means that the police come running to your door.i said "school attacks" there has been more violent attacks at british schools.

now you're not making sense. it is infintely easier to kill someone with a gun than with anything else, hence murder rates going through the roof in many US cities. its not acceptable that civilians can buy assault rifles, they have no need for them.& as for britain being more violent, you're wrong, the statistics show that the US has more violent murders (allbeit fewer burglaries), and there have been massacres in america every few years, we've had practically none in the last few decades.

if a person want to kill a person, they shall do itwhether it be shotgun, knife, poison, beating, crowbar, scissors, paper cut, bare hands.america fairs well enough, everyone using guns for sporting purposes, target practice in the lawn, and robbery rates there are around the same... a lot more school attacks and "almost" massacres in Britain. a lot more violence in schools in britain. a lot more drunken violence. a collection of bolts that happens to make a rounded thing go fast isnt to blame

and i think you should trust your government a bit more. yes they have turned on their people in the past, but a working democracy with a working law court and effective policing doesn't need civilians to have guns, all that ever does is prevent a robbery every few years at the cost of several massacres

i use air rifles and occasionally a friend's dad's licensed bolt-action, but there's rigorous testing before you're allowed one, regular checks and there should be a reason for owning one (like woodland management or target practise, not defending yourself because you think the government's out to get you). in that sense its ok, but anything better than hunting rifles for anyone without good reason to have them (e.g.: in urban areas) is not on

i dunno. it works in America. i use shotguns and air rifles recreationally all the time. no freedom to the people you know. if the government one day decided "screw this, lets kill everyone and start again" there would be little effective resistance.

well the knife stuff is common sense. but civilians can't be trusted with guns.

aye, my point is....very few people are in scouts, and kitchen knives are only acceptable to carry if you are a chef, going to or from a workplace. though a pen knife may be used innocently enough, you have to prove you intended no harm with it, and that is a little hard. in the case of knives its guilty until you prove yourself innocent. the sight of the revolver would be enough to reinforce social norms, people would see the possible consequences. no rash moves

and hardly anyone, antime (in the UK) needs the firearm police, but when they do they are available with a shitload of backup, helis, special cameras etc. a little more effective than an untrained frightened, triggerhappy civvy with a revolver

scouts have a valid reason, they're a useful tool. and kitchen knives are also useful. in short knives are tools with many uses, guns have only two (killing and recreation, and recreation can be kept in designated ranges where they can keep the guns)

ahh, but who really has a valid reason to cary a pen knife? who is in scouts nowadays? tescos should really be banned, kitchen knives are twice as dangerous, and far easier to get hold of. i'd rather be up against a teen with a 3 inch flick blade than a teen with a butcher knife. ahhhh firearms police are good and all, but.... dont see many around when you need em do ya? a crime is a crime, most people dont commit it and stand there with the gun waiting for fire arms police to get there.

ever heard of firearms police? y'know, the guys who receive better training and have much faster response times because there's so little gun crime they're rarely tied up?and the penknife stuff is BS, you can carry a knife in public if you have reason to; e.g.: scouts and penknives, chefs and kitchen knives, putchers and cleavers etc etc (its when a hoodie wonders around with a jagged dagger that people get shifty)

England is the land of freedom to walk around without fear of being shot; just as long as you can dodge a knife!

bloody thugs. and the miners weren't exactly peaceful either!

maggie destroyed the social fabric of britain when she anlawfully turned the police and worst still, the secret services on her people, this was the year real justice died in britain. on a lighter note, the illness maggie has now is causing her to loose her marbles, shes going insane, how ironic is that.