> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
20:23:
The Arab League is very ineffective and you never hear about it in the news. It used to be a big thing, but now it does not even implement the boycotts anymore.it is not about the jews; it is about the arab nations doing it for politics, and the palestinians fighting for land.
> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
20:22:
UN has not recognized Israel's occupation and calls the areas occupied territories. Settlements on these are considered illegal. Israel does not even pay reparation for the people it forced out, and sticks them in refugee camps which it then later bombs. In Lebanon in the 80's I believe, it allowed the Pharonge to enter and massacre thousands of unarmed palestinian men, women, and children, forcing Ariel Sharon to resign when the international community heard of this.
> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
20:21:
In Darfur, the victims are Muslims. There are 200,000 Muslims killed by Muslims. It is not a religious battle. In fact, darfur is because nonarabs are fighting against arabs who they believe the government favored.I am not saying Arabs killing Arabs is negligible; i am saying that America actively provides support and ammunition to Israel and is indirectly fueling the crimes there and it has to open its eyes and understand what it is funding.
> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
20:15:
the violation of logic is that Israelis claim to want peace and say it is not happening because of hamas when in reality a lot of the blame is due to Israel. Israel doesn't want a 2 state solution even though Gaza and w.b. are considered occupied territories, doesn't give those people equal rights so even a 1-state solution is not implemented, gets angry when UK decides to label food as israeli or palestinian, and is unwilling to stop building in the area palestinians want their capital.
> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
20:11:
??this is not based on news of the Arab world; it is based on actual documents. Look up UN Resolution 242 that tells Israel to give up all occupied territories;Israel twisted it since the english version does not use the word "the" while the french one does, making it think it doesn't have to give all of the territories up.The first Israelis were absent for hundreds of years. If I had ancestors thousands of years ago who live in Israel, do I have the right to go there and displace the natives?
> Luzcvier said on
12-14-2009 at
20:08:
You don't know much, you need to read more, How ignoramus you are, I know you must be their brother or sister, Can't you see who are the giving trouble to whole world? Besides disliking other people peoples religion, they are killing eveyryone including their own brothers and sisters who disagree with them. From The Far EAst To Africa, North America, and Europe. Who are they, your brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Luzcvier said on
12-14-2009 at
20:04:
If you are basing just from the news of Arab world, better read the history and learn the facts. YOur ignorance will not take you anywhere. There's no such things as Palestinians in the old days, All I know is Gaza. YOu need to read more and to balance your knowledge. I'm I heard so much negative against Israel but they are the most pluralistic society in the middle East.
> yaron3534 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:51:
lolliesers dear,The Arab League recently refused to condemn Sudan for genociding 350,000 Non Arab Muslims. But oh my God, let's condemn he Jews. I like the humor. It roars my laughter uncontrollably
> yaron3534 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:45:
lolliesers dear,According to your logic, Indonesia (largest Muslim country) which "OCCUPIED" East Timor despite U.N. recognition must be banned for life from the global public sector, let alone paying massive reparations to surviving victims
> yaron3534 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:38:
lolliesers dear,Merchandizing selective morality to the masses is moral hypocrisy of the tallest order. Propaganda 101Relax lolliesers, I'm not telling,,,
> yaron3534 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:32:
lolliesers dear,Russia killing 100,000 independence seeking Chechen Muslims (Grozny 94), Arab Muslims genocide 350,000 Non Arab Muslims (Darfur), Indonesia (largest Muslim country) starving 250,000 East Timoreans to death etc. All negligible. Who cares? Arabs killing Arabs -Negligible & meaningless. Nice...
> kreplach2 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:24:
There are no magical x ray vision guided missiles that target civilians used by the IDF or Even invented,Arab forces since 1920 have been focused on civilian casualties.
> kreplach2 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:22:
When I hear criticism about occupation I hear calls to end it but I rarely hear discisions of origin, Of a Palestine that has yet to exist, Of Arab wars that produced this, AND I NEVER hear about the Palestinian desire for Islam rather than INDEPENDENCE,
> kreplach2 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:19:
The largest explosion on the beaches was an ammo dump catastrophe whic h was Hanas fault. Of course they BLAMED it on the Israelis.Yes the Nazis and the Palestinians (Arabs) are quite separate. The Arab responsibility lies in the Grand Mufti al-Husseini leadership in the war on the Jews 1920-48.
> kreplach2 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:15:
Its seems clear you have a chip on your shulder about Israel. Yes it is Hamas fault, Where is this violation of logic>
> kreplach2 said on
12-14-2009 at
15:13:
Your objections are tainted by the silence over issues you ignore. You do know that Israel has been victinized in the UN by an Arab (now Muslim) coalition of oil states and police states as well their toadies blackmailed into subservience. In addition Communist states were a part of this coalition.You amusingly state they lived in peace. When was this mythical peace?Israel used violence but NOT terorism You dont seem to know the definition.
> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
14:52:
and the other fights back the wrong way. If Hamas targeted only military structures, i would call it a resistance since no civilians would be hurt. unfortunately, it aims at civilian areas, so it is screwed up that way.Arab moral hypocrisy?I would love to see what you would do when Israel bombs your house since it calls it "illegal", kills your parents or kids in front of you, gives you no medicine or food, and then keeps building in the area you want to call a capital.Would you not fight back?
> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
14:50:
that is an issue between Saudi Arabia and yemen, both of which are arab. And that issue is not new, and is often done in retaliation for Iran because I believe yemen is shi'a (not sure though). That conflict has existed for a while, ever since Nasser who funded a part of Yemen and k.s.a. the other when they were fighting a civil war.The issue is between Israel and palestine; the fact that one is arab has NOTHING to do with an issue. The problem is that one is occupying and abusing another
> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
14:44:
oh, you mean beaches which israel bombs, hence the reason the beach houses are the cheapest in gaza?Hmmm...do Israelis love the holocaust so much they bring it up every time Israeli legitimacy is called into question? Because Jewish people experienced a horrible genocide, does that mean they have to transfer it to another group of people?Zionist immigration just so you know started before WWII
> lolliesers said on
12-14-2009 at
14:41:
funny. Everytime someone says a peaceful solution should be given to divide the illegally occupied areas of Israel into one state, someone always brings up the Holocaust...And what do you mean nothing happened? World War II anyone?if your point of view is a represenation of all of Israel, then it seems clear Israel does not want peace, yet says it is Hamas's fault there is no peace! Am i the only one who sees no logic in this?