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Video: Gay Pride 2008
Author: P
Description: Happy Pride to all who are celebrating. I recommend a couple of videos by straight YouTubers who capture two important components of what gay pride is about -- especially this year. And I extend thanks to the many straight allies who've helped to the gay civil rights movement along. Links:AngryIslander56's video—http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_RNFy3TVLcRandyHelzerman's video—http:/...
Duration: 2 seconds
Date: Mié 12-31-1969 18:00
Rated: 4
Played: 6 times
Tags: gay lesbian pride straight civil rights movement God Jesus Bible atheist Christian AngryIslander56 Randyhelzerman GLBT
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> projectpound said on 04-28-2009 at 13:53:
Cant Wait for San Fran Pride,Love USA xxx

> Imaginefree69 said on 04-17-2009 at 05:55:
"I only put this in the equation for gay Christians who want to change."The only reason I am aware offor any gay person to want to change his/her orientationis to avoid the social discriminationand bullying by christians and those whom they encourage.The problem is best addressed, not by expecting gays to change,but by promoting equality for all peopleand by christians following the example of Jesusand leaving gays alone.

> eastombg said on 04-16-2009 at 04:04:
I will stay away, I apologize for that impression. I absolutely am not telling homosexuals they need to change.I am trying to learn to communicate a positive message to those (a person in my church) who wants to change on his own accord.Which judging by the offense I am leaving here, I am failing miserably.I apologize again for any offense. I don't think any of us are different from each other, or better than any of each other.

> ProfMTH said on 04-16-2009 at 03:54:
While you have attempted to couch your "change" rhetoric in benign terms, the fact is that people who preach the message you're preaching here -- regardless of how benign the phrasing -- are trying to persuade homosexuals that they need to change. Well, they don't. Go peddle your bigoted bullshit on someone else's channel, Eastombg.

> eastombg said on 04-16-2009 at 03:34:
I agree with what you are saying in this case. I only put this in the equation for gay Christians who want to change. Not to tell non-Christian (or Christian) gays they need to change.So the point is to encourage the many gay Christians who want to change, that it is within their ability.Not to tell people they have to, just that they can.

> Imaginefree69 said on 04-16-2009 at 02:16:
"change is within our strength given from God "Fewer and fewer people believe in god,and for very good reasons.There is no reason to try to apply godto anyone who does not believe.Right?

> Imaginefree69 said on 04-16-2009 at 02:15:
"we have the ability to control our sexual desires"Perhaps.But why should anyone be condemned to spending their life fighting against one of humanity's most powerful drives?There is no basis to equate homosexualitywith perversions that harm people.It's just a matter of indoor vs outdoor plumbing.Why should it concern anyone besides the people involved?

> Imaginefree69 said on 04-16-2009 at 02:12:
" is that right?"I don't think so.I was attracted to girls from my earliest memory.I "fell in love" with my second-grade teacher.My daughter fell in love with her 3rd grade teacher.My son fell in love with his male swimming instructor at 6 years of age.Guess what?My son is an adult now, and gay.It appears to be innate, not learned.

> eastombg said on 04-15-2009 at 05:01:
The previous comment is only intended for people who want to change. I am certainly not against anyone who does not desire to change.I am only saying that change is within our strength given from God (if we believe and want it).It is harder to truly want to change than it is to make the change.P.S. I am certainly nobody special, or in any way better than anybody. I just believe strongly in the strength we have been given. I love you all regardless of opinion or sexual orientation.

> eastombg said on 04-15-2009 at 04:50:
I love all people.I believe though that we have the ability to control our sexual desires. It takes not only extreme willpower, but also an extreme desire to change, a nearly impossible combination.I figured this out when I was growing out of a personal perversion.If we really want to be, we can be sexually driven by anyone or anything.We have been given the strength to control it.I understand the power of sexuality, but I also know we have been given strength over it if we want it.

> ProfMTH said on 04-14-2009 at 18:04:
I don't know whether one is born with one's sexual orientation set or not. I don't think anyone knows. What I *do* know is that sexual orientation is discovered, as opposed to chosen. There comes a day when each of us realizes that he or she is attracted to people of the opposite sex, the same sex, or sometimes both. My suspicion is that sexual orientation is multifactorial in origin and, once established, is pretty much impervious to change. Hope that helps a bit.

> eastombg said on 04-14-2009 at 17:20:
I am Christian. I love all people.I have a question I am hoping for some help with. (not trying to be rude, just confused on one issue)Many people say that (gays) are born that way. I don't understand that because, I don't think a straight person is born straight, nor a gay person is born gay. We don't have sexual attractions until puberty. Our minds might be trained in one way or another before then, but we don't sexualize it until puberty, is that right?

> lb8978 said on 04-09-2009 at 22:08:
l love your comments about choice!! You are right, it's not a choice, and those who think it is are blatently uneducated. It's also nothing to be ashamed of, we are all made differently for a reason, it keeps things interesting!

> BungleZippie said on 03-21-2009 at 22:29:
If your both then o gosh its stacked against you

> Imaginefree69 said on 03-11-2009 at 04:31:
"We are anonymous!Fear us!"Gee, you sound just like the KKK.A bunch of cowards hiding under sheets.What tiny pricks you all must have.Hahahaha!!!!!!

> Imaginefree69 said on 03-03-2009 at 02:38:
For those straights who think it's a choice,let me offer this challenge-just for a single weekend, DECIDE to be gay.CHOOSE to be erotically stimulated by someone of the same gender.ELECT to have romantic feelings toward a gay person.MAKE UP YOUR MIND to not be attracted to anyone of the opposite gender.If you can do this, it's a choice.If not, please shut up about it.

> ProfMTH said on 11-01-2008 at 21:08:
Intolerance tends to be strange.

> AnderssenVP said on 11-01-2008 at 21:05:
Ok, thanks. I think it's strange, nonetheless (the intolerance against atheists I mean).

> ProfMTH said on 11-01-2008 at 02:47:
Polling data indicate that society is markedly more tolerant of homosexuals than it is of atheists.

> AnderssenVP said on 10-31-2008 at 22:17:
Hello,may I ask you a question? Is it actually more "unpopular" to be gay or to be an atheist? (in the US, I mean). Recently I've heard that atheists sometimes hide their lack of belief. And this was really surprising to me, to say the least.

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