> pdxeddie1111 said on
01-06-09 at
14:24:
and some percievers are more right than others. lol If illusionist makes a ball disappear in front of someone that someone sees the ball disappear but to the observer at a better observation point sees the ball go up the illusionists sleeve. Which observer is correct?
> Locust59 said on
01-07-09 at
00:08:
An illusion is something perceived that is misleading. Time is an illusion because you cant measure what you perceive time as, because it differs depending on the observer which makes it misleading. If it is misleading, it makes it an illusion. Of course nobody has a "correct" point of reference because "correctness" depends on a third party to comfirm. However, every perception is correct among the observer alone, so perception and relativity is everything in this case rather than correctness.
> fikernafaka said on
01-07-09 at
06:03:
time is sequence of events some events come before the other event, so light come from a source say sun and it takes about 8 minutes, if i believe that time stops if some object travel as fast as light, in this case time for light should stop and obviously it should not take 8 minutes to reach on earth. can someone explain this to my.
> FizzyBublech said on
01-07-09 at
10:57:
Illusion: The condition of being deceived by a false perception or belief.
Your use of the word is incorrect. Time is not an illusion.
With regards to correctness, lets say there was another conductor traveling in a train going the opposite direction You are saying that since now there is a 3rd party the correct perspective can be given? Problem is the 3rd conductors perspective is different from the other two, so who is right?
> Paulginz said on
01-07-09 at
11:15:
It depends on the reference frame.
To us, on earth, it looks like light takes 8 minutes to reach us. But from the point of view of the light, the woyage is instantaneous.
> Paulginz said on
01-07-09 at
11:18:
Photons have no mass AT REST.
Photons however, are never at rest... they rtavel at the speed of light, and hence have a certain amount of energy.
Energy and mass are the same thing, ergo photons have mass.
> Locust59 said on
01-07-09 at
18:12:
Time is being decieved by a false perception sir. Since there is not a universal perception of time, creating or acting as if there is one would make time an illusion on a universal level. And about the correctness, you got me misinterpreted, I said "OF COURSE NOBODY HAS A CORRECT POINT OF REFERENCE." I still agreed that neither is right universally but both is right depending on perspective. Read carefully what I said, I had no contradictions.
> TemporalBouncer said on
01-08-09 at
00:27:
Time, itself, is actually a red herring and does not inherently exist. It is a perception and a system of measurement that we use in an attempt to understand the universe and our perception of it. It is a useful concept, but a barrier to truly understanding the nature of matter and energy. Once it becomes clear what one is actually observing, then the fallacy of time becomes immediately evident and then you can understand how aging rate is altered by velocity. EVERYTHING is relative.
> TemporalBouncer said on
01-08-09 at
00:42:
Actually, due to "time dialation" effects, time must be passing slower for the particles than for a stationary observer, so I would think that if the particle could see, it would have to appear as though the other particle was moving away at a rate at least as fast as the speed of light, if not faster.
> TemporalBouncer said on
01-08-09 at
00:48:
Although this may be considered to be time travel, it is not true time travel, as you are not skipping over any period of time, but rather passing through a great length of time at a highly reduced rate of aging. True time travel is achieved by resynchronizing matter (temporal phasing) with states that we only perceive to be of the "past" or the "future" due to the nature in which we, ourselves, experience the fluidity of change within our frame of reference.