> bcs002 said on
12-24-2008 at
20:12:
And let backward middle easterners rule?
> KarachayTulpar said on
11-15-2008 at
22:35:
Just1reason why Abdulhamid wastakendown. Duringhisrule Abdülhamid refused Theodor Herzls offers to pay down a substantial portion of the Ottoman debt in exchange for a charter allowing the Zionists to colonize Palestine. "to have the scalpel cut my body is less painful than to witness Palestine being detached from the Khilafah"Ottoman" state and this is not going to happen let the Jews keep their millions and once the Khilafah is torn apart one day, then they can take Palestine without a price"
> l8rthen said on
11-14-2008 at
12:40:
KarachayTulpar, Thanks. My comment had to do with your assessing blame and greed to French and Brits. Fascinating series of videos. I am just getting into this. Do you think that their nationalism was guided alos by looking over the horizon and positioning themselves against future threats of nations taking from them?
> KarachayTulpar said on
11-14-2008 at
03:04:
The rulers of the Ottoman Empire were not the real rulers at this time. The real leader Abdullhamit II was disposed of in 1909. After that Sultans were mere puppets in the Grand Scheme of things. The War Party meaning Talat Pasha and others who were educated in Europe came back with a radical concept of "Nationalism". The Ultimate blow to the Ottoman Empire came from this. They had no reason whatsoever to enter this war. Allot of misguidance and greed on there part.
> l8rthen said on
11-14-2008 at
00:06:
KarachayTulpar , ?? And what blame do you ascribe to those who ruled the Ottoman empire?
> KarachayTulpar said on
11-06-2008 at
22:49:
Allot of young men died for nothing here. Greedy British and French Imperialist.