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Video: B-29 War Machine Utimate Quality
Author: S
Description: An amv video of B-29 Superfortress War Machine Please Rate Dudes
Duration: 2 seconds
Date: Mié 12-31-1969 18:00
Rated: 4
Played: 7 times
Tags: B-29 SUPERFORTRESS WW2 german secret researcgs researchs mg42 30 cal. enola gay bombing p51 mustang p41 machine guns
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> dkirsten said on 12-10-2009 at 06:36:
Horrible soundtrack... no connection to subject... distracting.

> spartanwarrior340 said on 12-07-2009 at 00:40:
great video, great music. good job

> nobumizu77 said on 11-23-2009 at 02:31:
Utimateってなんだよ。Ultimateだろ。

> heart285 said on 11-16-2009 at 05:22:
You need smell the coffee...This song has always put the GO GO in place of the NO NO ....HIGH VOLTAGE

> walkandlookup said on 10-27-2009 at 21:14:
this music stinks

> SupernalOne said on 10-27-2009 at 13:13:
In both cases it was to counter the USSR, our new enemy, wasn't it? And also, since those two countries and peoples would eventually revive themselves, we wanted to be right there overseeing them. Or so I gather -

> bob75ify said on 10-26-2009 at 21:49:
yes and then the US and the brits helped out west germany,and the US helped Japan rebuild its ecomomy

> SupernalOne said on 10-26-2009 at 20:09:
I'm talking too much - my original point is simply that it is unseemly and improper for Americans to gleefully exult in our use of superior force in WW2. It had to be done, but it is not anything to gloat over. Adn some of the video clips on the B-29 bomber seemed to have that sort of feeling to them, so I had to comment.Have an excellent day!

> SupernalOne said on 10-26-2009 at 19:24:
True - though a people can be motivated to war if they are threatened, or if they feel overcrowded by surrounding nations or that they have a just cause to spread out (cultural/racial superiority has been touted as a just cause of course) -- then once the war is begun, the soldiers have to suffer all the harm. As long as one side is winning, it tends to "enjoy" the war. Or ferocity tends to rule, so that atrocities are committed. "War is politics by other means", "war is all hell" - both true

> KARASAWA40 said on 10-26-2009 at 19:16:
Yes, it can be complicated. Asia had a right to self control, but Japan went too far, especially against China. At that point, their proclamation of liberation became just a ruse.And yes, humanity can be a casualty of war. A nation must be careful not to lose its just cause for battle. A just cause permits entry and continuation of fighting, but once the cause is no longer there, war must stop. War itself is not something to enjoy, and I believe most people feel this way.

> SupernalOne said on 10-26-2009 at 16:22:
and of course, the individual soldier is fighting for home and country and honor and to keep from letting his comprades down. Once a war starts, it plays out, and everyone does what they are compelled to do, and people lose humanity as they go. So many young men sacrified horribly, so that one people can thrive at the expense of others, or to prevent the spread. It's all biological, really, at bottom - we all want our own kind to succeed - but we're all human, tho propaganda says otherwise...

> SupernalOne said on 10-26-2009 at 16:07:
It gets complicated, doesn't it - Western nations exploited Asia, so if Asian nations decide to take control, is that wrong? But the Japanese "greater co-prosperity sphere" was in fact an empire, with slave labor taken from the conquered peoples. The US tried to stop Japanese influence by restricting access to oil, and Japan decided to attack. In general, the aggressor is considered the bad guy, especially if that nation is attempting to conquer & subjugate other nations. -

> KARASAWA40 said on 10-26-2009 at 16:02:
If the enemy is "evil", there is nothing wrong with hating (as long as it's not taken to the extreme, like torture or inhumane treatment) them. A war in self defense, where peaceful negotiation has failed, is a just war. It doesn't mean people like, or that they want to go through with it. It just means it was the best option at the time.

> SupernalOne said on 10-26-2009 at 13:52:
Oh, agreed - the "Rape of Nanking", the Manchurian biowarfare & extreme medical experimentation, the Death Marches, notorious prison camps, the entire Bushido code where virtually anything you do to win is justified -- yep, Imperial Japan brought it upon themselves -- it can even be said that fewer Japanese died as a result of the atom bombings than would have if the US had invaded the home islands - but it's always best for the victor to stop hating as soom as possible, it's soul-destroying

> bob75ify said on 10-25-2009 at 14:43:
hey,japan killed thousands of innocent people and raped chinise in the nangan or whatever it was called massucer

> SupernalOne said on 10-22-2009 at 14:11:
Sorry, I wasn't clear - I meant to give a sense of irony & disapproval of war in general -- sometimes, Americans can be excessively triumphant about how American is so mighty -- my feeling is that it's just a damned shame that cultures clash, regimes become hostile, & all the young men of both sides get sent off to kill each other. When a war is won, the joy should be that the fighting has stopped, not that the enemy is beaten. But hating the enemy is part of the war effort - that's too bad

> sensimontao said on 10-22-2009 at 11:34:
sorry i could not understand what you were trying to say? what were you getting at?

> DEP717 said on 10-19-2009 at 04:33:
Google "Kee Bird."

> SupernalOne said on 10-16-2009 at 15:32:
yes - though it doesn't mean we can't do better still - we aren't necessarily perfect simply because our founding fathers were smart enough to devise a well-reasoned Constitution and our grandfathers fought like hell to defend the nation -- we ourselves have to strive to be the best we can be in each succeeding generation (sez me, slouched at a PC workstation) :)

> SupernalOne said on 10-16-2009 at 15:29:
interesting sound track (0:20 - 0:38) -- so, we "fucked" the Japanese with B-29s? More like Imperial Japan awakened a sleeping giant, who then tore them a new asshole --

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