> smitty121981 said on
12-04-2009 at
20:33:
"[the NIST conslusion] is also endorsed by every accredited scientific organization, institution and university"total fucking bullshit. the VAST majority of those universities and institutions have NOT given their opinion, and NO vote is NOT a vote for NIST's bullshit!!! You might as well say they all believe in unicorns! Well, why not? They haven't publicly denounced unicorns so they must all believe in unicorns right?total bullsiht.
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
18:48:
I explain...I said as: "every accredited scientific organization, university and institution, all, without exception, support, confirm and endorse the evolution theory."Now, it is unreasonable for you to demand that I call every university and obtaIn a written confession. But when you do ask them they will all confirm.And this is exactlly true for the NIST conclusion. It is also endorsed by every accredited scientific organization, institution and university.
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
18:40:
niverent,YOu are a little edge at this moment aren't you. Just relax, in this state you are not rational any more.To be perfectly clear I repeat my statement:I claim that every ACCREDITED SCIENTIFIC organization, university and institution, all, without exception, support, confirm and endorse the NIST CONCLUSION in exactly the same way that every accredited scientific organization, university and institution, all, without exception, support, confirm and endorse the evolution theory.
> niverent said on
12-04-2009 at
18:18:
Truhters should burn in hell. America is the greatest country on earth and has the best foreign policy on earth. America saved the Netherlands from Germany during world war II because the Netherlands are weak. The Netherlands will be underwater due to Global Warming which is caused by God's wrath because the Netherlands is an immoral country that legalized drug use and prostitution.
> niverent said on
12-04-2009 at
17:43:
I'll tell you what we need. We need a database of all these debunkers so that once the truth comes out we can round them all up and charge them as accessories after the fact.
> niverent said on
12-04-2009 at
17:40:
Wihmahlers, you've convinced me once again that there was no conspiracy. Why? Becasue its impossible that the American gov't would attack its own citizens. Why? Because America is the best country on earth. We saved the Netherlands during WWII. Never forget that you fucking dumb dutch cunt. If it weren't for americans you'd be speaking German right now...oh wait you are speaking German since everyone knows that dutch is just pidgin german.
> niverent said on
12-04-2009 at
17:36:
Go fuck yourself you god damn Dutch pig. If Americans had known you'd be defending Nazis 60 years after WWII we would have let the Germans have you you fucking worthless piece of Dutch shit. You know why you are defending Nazis cause your fucking dutch whore Grandmother willingly fucked a Nazi during World War II and now you have Nazi genes in you.
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
16:55:
niverent,There is one link, a reference of MIT references, that I like to post but youtube keep refusing it in any form I try to post.And that was the ONLY reason delaying the answer to your question.I would also appreciate it when you keep your emotions under control when expressing yourself on a public forum. That would be the civil posture to display publicly.
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
16:38:
Problems with the links, I try one at the time: As for your specific request (MIT) here are some references:See on "web mit edu":/istgroup/ist/documents/EFCA2004_Istanbul04. pdf
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
16:37:
Problems with the links, I try one at the time: As for your specific request (MIT) here are some references:See on "web mit edu":/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter%20VI%20Materials%20&%20Structures. pdf
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
16:31:
Your conclusion and ad hominum is a bit to hasty.I do have the references. Just wait a few seconds for me to figure out how to get the damn links accepted by youtube...
> niverent said on
12-04-2009 at
16:29:
You are a FUCKING IDIOT! FUCK YOU! You just got done saying that every university endorses NIST and then when I ask for evidence you say you cant! FUCK. America will never save Europe Again. Your grandmother got raped by a fucking a fascist and now you are defending fascists. Fuck you you fucking pig of a fucking human.
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
16:07:
niverent: Give me some evidence that? MIT as a whole supports, confirms, or endorses the NIST conclusion.Me: I can't! It also is an unreasonable demand. I can also not give evidence that all univerisities in the world: "as a whole supports, confirms, or endorses the evolution theory".But still they do!Ask any and each one of them, one at the time, they will confirm.BTW, you are wrong, accredited universities and engineering agencies do endorse the NIST conclusion (UL, BYU).
> niverent said on
12-04-2009 at
14:25:
Well now you are just talking nonsense. Give me some evidence that MIT as a whole supports, confirms, or endorses the NIST conclusion. Universities don't endorse things.
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
14:16:
niverent: Are you claiming every organziation in the world supports the NIST report? Me: I claim that every ACCREDITED SCIENTIFIC organization, university and institution, all, without exception, support, confirm and endorse the NIST CONCLUSION in exactly the same way that every accredited scientific organization, university and institution, all, without exception, support, confirm and endorse the evolution theory.
> niverent said on
12-04-2009 at
13:55:
Are you claiming every organziation in the world supports the NIST report? The NIST report is unscientific because it was not peer-reviewed. The fact that it was put out by the Bush Administration is further evidence it is not science since the Bush admin. has a proven history of manipulating and supressing science in multiple areas.
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
13:27:
niverent: NIST. Me: OK! on topic again.Ignoring the fact that "NIST, which also consulted outside engineering entities" (*) and as confirmed by every organization, agency and scientific institution in the world, including such respected instititutions as MIT, also ignoring the verifiable open character and public hearings for criticism, ignoring all that, why do you call the NIST report unscientific?(*)) wikipedia: Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center#Collapse_of_7_World_Trade_Cente
> niverent said on
12-04-2009 at
11:02:
It is a topic of the status of science under Bush because Bush had the gov't manipulate or supress science in multiple areas. This is a proven fact. You have claimed that the NIST report is science. I am showing that it is a report that came from an administration that has a proven history of manipulating and suppressing science. Its not off topic at all. The NIST report is not science. It is Bush propaganda.
> wimahlers said on
12-04-2009 at
04:54:
niverent: It is a discussion on the status of science under the Bush Administration which you don't want to acknowledge. Off topic and irrelevant for the subject at hand...moving on.P.s.I am willing and exited to discuss these matters. Just propose a forum or youtube link, preferable a forum (no 500 char. limit, better track record, more spam proof), where we can discuss these topics where these matters are actually the topics discussed.
> xAnacondax said on
12-04-2009 at
03:01:
Bush ain't an engineer, and he's not required to confirm the validity of the NIST report. You are, of course poisoning the well. If you have a problem with what the NIST report concludes, then scan through resources that deal with structural engineering and architecture. The NIST report is supported by well documented material.
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